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  Nice to hear / Gorby's son

  by Gorb in

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  gorby's son, 12 year old,, made his father happy and thinking.. he said: "truth and logic are connected.

  jw.org is not logic so it has no truth".. one line with so much to think about.. g..

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  Nathan Natas

  Smart lad!

  Takes after his Dad!

  POET - Physically Out Eternally Thankful
  
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  PIMO Bethel Elder Has Special Message & Speaks out

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  a pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.

  the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.

  no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.

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  One of my first encounters with philosophy was when I realized while in grade school that "TRUTH is congruent with reality." Later I refined this a bit to "TRUTH is congruent with observable reality." My JW mother would have disagreed and offered corporeal punishment had I been dumb enough to confide my finding with her.

  Years ago when SilentLambs had the big demonstration in front of Brooklyn Bethel, a brave woman named Pat Garza accused Ted Jaracz of abusing her when she was a child in California. At the time her claim seemed to stretch the imagination. Today it seems more likely that Pat Garza was telling the truth.

  A while after Pat came forward a man named Mark Palo claimed that he was abused at Bethel when he was a child and his parents worked as part-time translators in Bethel. I personally asked Mark to provide substantiation for his claim. He did. Today his story is considered by many objective persons to be true.

  The infamous "Johnnie the Bethelite" disclosed some things that came true years later. Yet "Johnnie" was considered a fraud by many at the time.

  Don't be gullible, but keep an open mind. There are times when TRUTH is stranger than fiction.
  
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  Wrong Religion

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  we brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.

  i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.

  please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.

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  Nathan Natas

  A fortune cookie once advised, "He who knows doesn't speak. He who speaks doesn't know."
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  Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

  by joey jojo in

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  at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

  it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

  im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

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  2025 will be 100 years (two jubilees) from 1925 when "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" created grand expectations among Jah's People. This can easily be excused as a simple arithmetic error, which the faithful will cling to as poverty and old age overtake them. They trusted the announcements of the Everlasting Free Lunch and they are left with sand in their hands.

  2034 as Blondie has mentioned, serves as a handy prophetic backstop, an "Oops! Ignore our flawed arithmetic, here's what we meant to say, you over-zealous brothers ran ahead of the GB's Celestial Chariot; see how foolish you were!"

  Speaking of GBs, we, the diseased brain apostates, have been "Trying To Get A Message To You" to abandon the Abominable JW.org.

  SING ALONG!
  
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  Homeopathy and Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by jojorabbit in

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  years ago, the jws did not like modern medicine.

  vaccines and other things were all deemed bad.

  this gave rise to a lot of jws getting into alternative medicines.

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  Is this the same Vogel?

  Click here

  There is no mention of homeopathic products that I could see on a quick scan of the site.

  I have Herbmare in my kitchen, and I like it.
  
  
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  Separate Identity, Volume 2

  by vienne in

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  volume two of schulz and de vienne's separate identity has been out for almost two years.

  some who would have purchased it were put off by the cost.

  the cost of a print copy is going up, sadly.

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  People who prefer inexpensive tomes can read the nutritional information panel on the wrapper of their twinkies.

  Extensive effort went into the preparation of these volumes, knowing they had a limited potential readership. A worker is worthy of his wages.

  My copy is en route to me.
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  Wow! 2700 plus topic about our friend Lloyd Evens

  by new boy in

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  well, i haven't been here in about 5 months.

  ever since my ex-pioneer partner and bethel roommate roy baty died.

  looks like i've have missed out on some fun.

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  The sooner the name of Lord Avons becomes anathema, the better.

  anathema (noun)
  1. something or someone that one vehemently dislikes.
  
  2. a formal curse by a pope or a council of the Church, excommunicating a person or denouncing a doctrine.

  Maybe he can become involved in some other issue that needs a prevaricating parasitic narcissistic

  sociopathic leader.
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  What sort of people were the JW's who went to prison? Government study tells all

  by Terry in

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  do you feel a draft?

  (jw’s did-in the 1960s)i thought you might find it interesting to review exactly what the u.s. government thought, studied, and wrote about people of conscience during the vietnam war.what follows comes from official records…more than half of the 27 million men eligible for the draft during the vietnam war were deferred, exempted, or disqualified.

  (cortright, david (2008).

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  Maybe we can say that those Jacuzzi boys lived like queens?
  
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  Some Jw's are the worst employees

  by Foolednomore in

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  i found a company and employed an elder as an underwriter and two ms as sales and marketing.

  anyway, this elder will delegate his work to the ms in sales and marketing, so he can go home early.

  he knew when he got started that this would be a 10 hour a day job with some saturday.

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  As the saying goes, you need to give them an opportunity to seek their bliss - ELSEWHERE!
  
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  Watchtower LOSES copyright court case - humiliated!

  by BoogerMan in

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  the org has been exposed for abusing dmca laws to hunt down and punish anonymous faders/jw's.. https://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2022/05/watch-tower-drops-its-effort-to-identify-a-dissident-blogger-based-on-spurious-copyright-claims.html.

  if you talk to a jw, tell them how wisely the "faithful slave is looking after the masters belongings.

  " (matt.

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  I hope Kevin McFree makes a Dubtown episode about this case - none of it is copyrighted to the Watchtower.